Tuesday, October 31, 2006

Comparison of the AK-47 and the M16


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Comparison of the AK-47 and M16




Weapon AK-47 M16
Manufacturer IZhMASh Colt Firearms
Design year 1947 1957
Weight 4.3 kg (9.5 lb) 3.6 kg (7.8 lb)
Length 87 cm (2 ft, 10 in) 100 cm (3 ft, 3 in)
Caliber 7.62 x 39 mm 5.56 x 45 mm
Rate of fire 600 round/min 750 to 900 round/min, cyclic
Effective range 300 m (328 yd) 550 m (600 yd)

The two most common assault rifles in the world are the Colt AR-15 (designated the M16 by the United States military) and its variants, and the Avtomat Kalashnikova Model 1947 (AK-47). These two have been compared since the late 1960s as rival models, and so have spawned controversy and comparison.

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Influence of World War II

WW2 combat experiences indicated that in the future, the combatant with higher firepower and mobility would be in a better position to successfully attain his goals, which was a shift from the previous doctrine of static wars that favored the defender. Bolt action rifles and revolvers would become obsolete in the face of semiautomatic and fully automatic weapons, and machineguns would become lighter and more mobile. In particular, the German MP40 submachinegun, the Russian SVT-40 self-loading rifle and the German Sturmgewehr 44 assault rifle would revolutionize future infantry weapon designs. Both the USA and the USSR realized the need to adapt their current weaponry to the newly adopted doctrines and tactics, and they took different approaches to the same problem, which resulted in the eventual adoption by both sides of the assault rifle concept.

Origins

The AK-47 design work was completed shortly after World War II, as can be seen by the origin of its model number (47 representing the year in which its design was adopted and given its current designation) and was in service in the Soviet army from the early 1950s, the beginning of the Cold War period. The design was influenced by contemporary and previous weapons like the FG-42, the MP-44 (later renamed Stgw-44) and early Russian attempts to build a lighter, automatic rifle based around the Japanese 6.5 mm Arisaka round, such as the AVS-36 Simonov and the early 1916 Avtomat by Fedorov. The AK-47 was adopted as the standard issue infantry weapon of the Soviet army due to its firepower, ease of use, low production costs, and reliability, which fit the Soviet doctrine of Operational Art as well as being suited for the new mobile warfare doctrines. The AK-47 was widely supplied or sold to nations allied with the USSR and the blueprints were shared with several friendly nations (the People's Republic of China standing out among these).

After the end of World War II, the United States started looking for a replacement for the M1 Garand, and Thompson submachineguns in the different branches of its armed forces. Early experiments with selective fire versions of both the M1 Carbine and the Garand proved disappointing. The .30-06 round was too uncontrollable in full auto and couldn't be carried in sufficient quantities to support the rate of fire, and fighting in Korea showed that the .30 Carbine was underpowered. American weapons designers reached the same logical conclusion as the Germans and Russians: an intermediate round was necessary. However, American high command insisted that the emphasis be placed on powerful and accurate rounds and thus the .308 Winchester was formally adopted as 7.62x51 NATO. It was around this caliber that the T44E (Derived from the T37, which was in turn a development of the M1 Garand), later adopted as M14 in 1957, was developed. The first confrontation between the AK-47 and the M14 came in the early part of the Vietnam War. Reports from the field that the rifle had too much recoil for automatic fire convinced the Army to adopt a new rifle with lighter, weaker ammunition. This lighter round (5.56 x 45 mm) had equal muzzle energy to that of the AK-47 round (7.62 x 39 mm), and was the product of lethality studies performed on goats in the late 1950s and early 1960s that showed smaller projectiles at higher velocities were more efficient at creating casualties. It should be noted that the designer of the AR-15/M-16, Eugene Stoner, got very little positive feedback from the Army about his design. It was only after the USAF adopted the AR-15 that the Army became interested in the design. This eventually lead to the adoption of the AR-15 as the M16 in 1967.

Conceptual differences

AK-47

The AK-47 was designed to use the production methods that were state of the art in the Soviet Union in the late '40s. This implied that it more or less used the same methods of construction as used for the PPSh-41 and the PPS-43. A common mistake is the claim that the AK-47 was derived from the German Sturmgewehr-44, which it was actually not (however the Sturmhewehr-44 had some good ideas which contributed somewhat to the design). The design of an automatic rifle was in the works in Russia, before World War II even began. The Avtomat Kalashnikov barrel, bolt and receiver was also milled out of a block of steel (which shortly after was changed to metal stampings), adding to its durability but also the weight of the rifle. In order to be able to use a steel grade that was easy to machine, the barrel and bore were hard chromed. The stock was simply made out of wood, which was a non-strategic material. This perfectly fit into the Soviet manufacturing philosophy, where large plants using much untrained labor could manufacture basic weapons cheaply and in very large quantities.

Another feature that is typical of Soviet designed assault rifles is the capability of the AK-47 to keep working no matter how dirty it gets. This can be attributed to the bad experience the Soviet Union had during the early stages of WW2, where it lacked proper ammunition production facilities. Thus, until 1943, the Soviet Union was reduced to using some very poor powders in its ammunition that left much residue in the guns using it. The Soviets also had learned early on that during a major conflict there is little time to train soldiers to keep their weapons clean.

Vietnam war veteran David H. Hackworth recalled: "One of the bulldozers uncovered the decomposing body of an enemy soldier, complete with AK47. I happened to be standing right there, looking down into the hole and pulled the AK out of the bog. "Watch this, guys," I said, "and I'll show you how a real infantry weapon works." I pulled the bolt back and fired 30 rounds - the AK could have been cleaned that day rather than buried in glug for a year or so. That was the kind of weapon our soldiers needed, not the confidence-sapping M-16."

Over time, the AK-47 descendants have been simplified through the use of spot welding and by further reducing the number of machined parts. The Izhevsk factory that manufactures the AK-47 descendants like the AK-101 can manufacture around 8,000 units per night shift. (Or around 24,000 units per day.) Because of its design it is not possible to manufacture the AK-47 series efficiently in small micro plants, due to large amount of metal stamping equipment needed for mass production. However, the AK-47 has been copied and manufactured in small shops all around the world, at the expense of many more man hours per unit.

M16

An early M16 rifle: note "duckbill" flash hider, triangular handguard, and the lack of forward assist, as well as the older-style rear sight assembly
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An early M16 rifle: note "duckbill" flash hider, triangular handguard, and the lack of forward assist, as well as the older-style rear sight assembly
A Marine with an M16A4 (equipped with ITL MARS reflex sight and KAC RAS foregrip) in Fallujah, Iraq, December 2004
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A Marine with an M16A4 (equipped with ITL MARS reflex sight and KAC RAS foregrip) in Fallujah, Iraq, December 2004

During the later '50s, when ArmaLite bought the blueprints of the M16, there had been many improvements in the field of machining equipment; the biggest being the introduction of numerical control machines. While aluminum is not as strong as steel, it is lighter and easier to machine.

The objective was to design a new assault rifle that was easy to carry and manufacture in early automated plants using numerical control machining. It was to use a smaller caliber bullet to allow the soldier to carry more ammunition, which increased his firepower while also enabling him to obtain a higher hit probability. The M-16 would achieve all these objectives by using all the latest technologies of its day.

Like the AK-47, the M16 concentrated on full automatic firepower rather than on semi-automatic accuracy. But unlike the AK-47, the M16's 5.56 mm M193 bullet was likely to fragment on impact, such as a hollow point round does, and thus create wounds that were out of proportion for its caliber (the AK round usually only fragments after hitting bone).

Unlike all the other gas operated modern assault rifles, the M16 does not have a separate piston. Rather, it deflects the gases into a small chamber inside the bolt assembly where the rotating bolt acts similar to a piston. This system works well provided that modern clean burning powders are being used in the ammunition. The primary advantage of this system is that it enhances the accuracy of the rifle when fired in full automatic mode. It also reduces the recoil to a very low level. The main disadvantage is that this system will allow carbon to accumulate inside the receiver, which mandates cleaning after each use. One early major improvement was to also hard chrome the barrel and chamber, which reduced spent case ejection problems that were plaguing the very first M16s. Over time, however, many small changes have improved the reliability of the M16. The reliability issues with the M16E1 were worked out later in the Vietnam conflict by re-introducing stick powder into the ammunition, as opposed to ball powder which would swell the cartridge casing and cause jamming. The forward-assist was also added to the M16, in the situation where the bullet gets stuck between the magazine and the barrel in a diagonal position, known as "FTF," or "Failure to feed.". Post-Vietnam the military began tweaking the rifle to perform at its peak without putting in danger the lives of the soldier. The M16A2 now carried a heavier steel milled barrel and a tighter rifle twist (1:7) to allow the use of a heavier projectile, as the new ammunition would now include the modern SS109 62 grain projectile from Belgium. Full-Automatic fire was also taken out of the weapon and 3-round burst was implemented into the weapons system instead. Modern day variants of the M16 are the M16A3 and M16A4 rifles, which now are built with MIL-STD-1913 rails which allow soldiers to easily attach scopes, red dots, and carrying handles. They also accompany a rail system as the fore-grip which is produced by Knights Armament Company. The weapons are now capable of being customized to each soldiers preference, making it a Modular Weapons System.

With the evolution of modern CNC machinery, the M16 can now be manufactured in micro plants. In the US, a number of manufacturers make modern M16 variants and many are indeed micro plant manufacturers. This is possible because of the high degree of automation that can be applied to the machining of the M16 receiver and upper, which are made out of aluminum.

The M16 appeared much later than the AK-47 and thus provided a platform that offered much more development potential than the AK series. Unlike the AK-47, the M16 continues to benefit from every advance in the CNC field, which allows more and more small manufacturers to make M16s and AR-15 rifles. While the M16 is made using aluminum and plastics, it can also be made entirely out of machined steel and wood, at the expense of adding some weight. Where the AK-47 relies on huge Soviet-style, state-run factories, the M16 is ideal for free economy production, spread among many manufacturers around the country, which ensures that it would be very hard for anyone to disrupt US M16 production in the case of a major conflict.

Comparison of characteristics

Weight and size

 M16A1 (top) and AKMS (bottom)
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M16A1 (top) and AKMS (bottom)

The weight of the AK-47 is 4.3 kg (9.5 lb) without the magazine and is 87 cm (2'10") in length, although the general shape of the rifle and size of the magazine make it uncomfortable to fire in the prone position. The M16A1 model of the Vietnam era weighs 3.6 kg (7.8 lb aprox) with the 30 round magazine and has a length of 100 cm (3'3"). The M16's lighter weight made it easier to carry and to aim quickly (being easier to swing). The later models of the M16 weighed more than the original with the addition of heavier (and more accurate) barrels and more rugged components. The M16A2, for example, weighs 3.99 kg (8.79 lb) loaded. The M16's ergonomics were often considered less comfortable than the AK-47's. However, the AK-47's shorter length may have aided in close quarters combat. In addition, the design of the M16's magazine allows for less comfortable and stable firing from the prone position.

Caliber

The AK-47 was designed to use the 7.62x39 mm Russian cartridge, whereas the M16 was designed for the 5.56x45 mm NATO. This smaller, faster, NATO cartridge should not be confused with the full power 7.62x51 mm NATO round, which was used in other battle rifles of the 1960s and 1970s, and is still used in medium machine guns. In metric caliber designations, these numerals refer to cartridge dimensions. The initial set of numbers refer to the diameter of the actual projectile in millimeters, while the subsequent set of numbers refer to the cartridge case's length.

A quick comparison between cartridges reveals that the faster American cartridge has a significant edge in long range performance and the Russian cartridge with a heavier projectile having better terminal performance due to its larger calibre.

The original ammunition for the M16 was M193 ball, a 55 grain (3.6 g) projectile that exited the muzzle at 3,250 ft/s. It is often stated that this round "would tumble" upon striking a target. At ranges of up to 75 meters the lead cored round is traveling fast enough that the force of striking a body will cause the round to fragment along the cannelure (crimp where the bullet is clamped to the casing) into at least three pieces (front, back, and jacket).

During the 1970s and 1980s the quest for greater accuracy from light machine guns led to the adoption of a heavier, slower, hardened steel cored round, the M855. The heavier 62 grain (4.0 g) SS109 projectile used in the later generation of 5.56x45 cartridges (M855) sacrificed some initial speed (muzzle velocity) but increased the ability of the projectile to penetrate solid targets. However, as a result, a major grievance of American troops in Somalia in 1993 was that the M855 round would drill cleanly through a target without fragmenting.

The 7.62 x 39 mm round weighs in at 122 grains (7.9 g) and on full auto unleashes an enormous amount of fire on opposing combatants. Its drawback is that with the relatively heavy projectile but only an intermediate case length and a consequent smaller relative capacity for the powder charge. Consequently, the ability to hit a target suffers considerably beyond 500 yards because the slower moving bullet flies on a wide looping trajectory.

Firing mode

The AK-47 and M16A1 both have a switch allowing the operator to select semi-automatic or fully automatic mode. The M16A1's selector is a small switch located on the left side of the lower receiver, within reach of the thumb of a right-handed user. The first position is safe, followed by semi-auto, and full-auto. The AK-47's is located on the right side, a large lever pushed up or down. The top-most position was safe, the middle was full-auto, and the bottom semi-auto. The M16's selector can be manipulated with the thumb while firmly holding the pistol grip and forearm. Beginning with the M16A2 model, the ability to select fully automatic fire was replaced by a three-round burst mode to aid in efficiency and accuracy. Some of the later derivatives of M16, such as the M16A3 and the M4A1 have the fully automatic firing mode.

Reliability

The AK-47 has always enjoyed a reputation of reliability. It is gas operated, using the gas from the barrel to push a piston attached to the the bolt carrier, operating the action. The gas tube is fairly large and is visible above the barrel. The AK-47 is often built with generous tolerances, allowing it to function easily in a dirty environment.

The M16, though, had reliability issues in its initial deployment. The direct impingement gas system used by the M16 is similar to normal gas operation but with a few differences. Gas from the barrel is used to cycle the action but lacks the piston, so the gas alone impinges upon the bolt carrier. But the design allows residue to be blown into the receiver as well as quickly accumulating carbon buildup within the gas port channel, comparatively, direct impingement systems will require more frequent cleaning than gas piston systems. The original M16 of the Vietnam era fared poorly in the humid, dirty environment of the Vietnamese jungle. The problems became the target of a Congressional investigation. The results of the investigation found that:

  1. The M16 was billed as self cleaning when it was in fact not.
  2. The lack of a chrome liner for the barrel and chamber created a corrosion problem and contributed to brass case swelling and extraction problems.
  3. The rifle was issued to troops without cleaning kits or instruction on how to clean the rifle.
  4. The rifle was tested and approved with the use of a Dupont IMR powder that was switched to a ball powder that increased both wear and fouling.
  5. Lack of a forward assist rendered the rifle inoperable in combat when it jammed.

When these issues were addressed the reliability issues ceased with the M16 in Vietnam service. Now a custom made Ar-15(almost the same gun, if not actually worse, than the m16) can handle 1100 rounds of straight fire jamming only once or twice. The M16 is an extremly reliable rifle if cleaned and lubricated often, and many of the jamming problems have been solved thanks to the correct distribution of cleaning kits in the armed forces.

Accuracy

The AK47 is generally considered a less accurate rifle, as the loose clearances that increase reliability and decrease manufacturing costs have an impact on accuracy. The relatively heavier recoil of the 7.62x39 cartridge can also be detrimental, not least because operator discomfort with the perceived recoil can require more skill and training to shoot accurately. Even with the lighter recoil and higher velocity of the .223 Remington round, the original M16 and M16A1 did not offer the accuracy that has been achieved with the later M16A2 using the SS109 bullet in semi-automatic mode. The M16 came from the factory shooting with an MOA of 3-4 MOA and under which allowed it to reliably hit targets up to 500 yards.

The "ghost ring" or aperture sights of the later M16A2 are superior to those used on most earlier assault rifles. Using an aperture rear sight, a small hole to center the front blade in, the human eye automatically centers the front sight post, making aiming faster and more consistent. The M16A2's rear sight features two aperture settings. The larger aperture enables faster sighting in poor lighting conditions. The smaller aperture permits more precise aiming for long-distance targets. The AK-47's sights are of a more traditional "open" style. The rear sight is a simple U- or V-shaped notch in which the front post is to be centered. This requires more concentration to use, as both the front and rear sight must be kept in alignment, and must be placed further away from the eye, or the same 'blurring effect' of the aperture sights will hinder performance.

Different Philosophies

The M16 and the AK-47 are designed with different beliefs in mind. Their design, capabilities, and role on the battlefield were reflections of the different experience and doctrine of the United States and the Soviet Union.

The AK-47 was the result of Soviet combat experience during World War II. Studies of battlefield reports showed that most combat occurred within 300 meters, and the winner was usually the side with the most firepower. The bolt-action weapons used on the eastern front were not designed for this kind of combat. The AK-47 was the answer to these reports. It would give the average soldier a high rate of fire, increasing a squad’s firepower tremendously. The AK-47 was never meant to be an accurate rifle beyond 600 meters since in mobile warfare, distances were covered rather quickly. It also had the advantage of not needing particularly experienced soldiers to be effective - the gun required very little maintenance, and accuracy wasn’t very important which was ideal for the large conscript-based Soviet army. Weight wasn't important either because Soviet doctrine placed an emphasis on the use of armored spearheads in an attack, followed closely by troop transports like the BTR-70 (which later culminated in the IFV concept, see M2 Bradley, BMP-2).

The M16, on the other hand, was influenced by the U.S. Army's preference for an accurate semi-automatic weapon. Although the U.S. Army’s studies into World War Two combat accounts came up with very similar results to that of the Soviets', the Army maintained its traditional views and preferred highly accurate weapons. This culminated in the M14. Combat experience in Vietnam showed that this traditional philosophy was anachronistic. A replacement was needed, in the middle between the traditional philosophy of highly accurate semi-automatic rifles, and that of the automatic AK-47. Lighter weight, accuracy and ergonomics were the priority for the American armed forces, and aviation materials were used in its construction, which resulted in higher costs per unit and an overall lower reliability when compared to the simple steel construction of the AK-47. Because American patrols in the thick Vietnamese jungle during the Vietnam War were restricted to foot and later on, helicopter movement, weight was a very important consideration.



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Springs are wound from certified aerospace spec chrome silicon wire. After
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rebound spring is approximately 11% lighter than the stock spring. Bear in
mind, that due to variances in bulk lots of material, we have measured as
much as ± 25% variance in the load exerted by the stock music wire springs
as well as some of the more popular aftermarket music wire springs. The
design of the hammer spring will insure reliable ignition under all
circumstances and temperature extremes. The lighter trigger rebound spring
will provide for a smoother & lighter single action trigger pull.

Operating temperatures are important as wire mills do not recommend the use
of music wire when temperatures are 0° F or lower. The maximum service
temperature for music wire is 250° F but spring performance can be affected
at temperatures as low as 175° F. Chrome silicon has a service temperature
range of -100° F to 750° F.



Because of the design parameters, materials & post-winding processing; the
ISMI chrome silicon springs will take a significantly smaller amount of set
than their music wire counter parts.



Smith & Wesson M&P recoil springs - price $8.95 each



ISMI recoil springs for the S&W M&P pistols are wound from certified aerospace
spec chrome silicon wire. After winding the springs are heat treated and
stress relieved. The recoil springs utilize rectangular section spring wire
(flat wire) similar to the factory spring. The ISMI springs will work with
the factory guide rod. Spring life should increase 10X when compared to the
music wire counterpart. Spring rates available: 13#, 15#, 17#, 20# & 22#.

PLEASE NOTE THE TRIGGER RETURN SPRING (also known as the rebound slide spring) FOR THE "J" FRAME CAN BE USED IN ANY SW K, L, OR N FRAME....


Saturday, October 28, 2006

You Must Keep Your Gun Clean.

WELCOME TO THE NO BS ZONE OF TEDDY JACOBSON


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I decided to write about all the carry handguns I have seen. I personally believe that you must keep your own carry gun clean, and I mean spotless because your very life depends on it. Some of the worst offenders are in Law Enforcement and when they need to use it, it may be too late as it will go click instead of bang. IT COULD RESULT IN YOU GETTING A BRAND NEW TOE TAG.

Most of the old timers my age are gone and are in cemetaries and or nursing homes. No one has ever had a lease on life and no one knows what tomorrow will bring but I take every precaution imaginable when it comes to carrying a firearm. I buy the best cleaners money can buy, that are safe for plastics and polymers. I buy the very best lubricant and I use Militec as I have been for many years.

Most people do not know how to clean a gun of any kind, they simply think that running a patch through the bore with a bore cleaner does the job, they just do not know and have never been taught proper procedures. All my carry guns are treated different than my others, for example I use a baked moly procedure on all my barrels and then wipe it down with Militec.

I use mainly superior products from other industries because the gunsmithing products are outdated and these other industries are far ahead in superior products. I do not teach gunsmithing and never will but I point people in the right direction. At this point in time I will take in selected trigger work, Providing it has not been butchered by some one else.

There are very few NEW GUNS MANUFACTURED TODAY THAT I WOULD BUY. I consider the Ruger revolvers the best buy today and they have retained a solid well made revolver built like a tank and they do not have a lock which is a cure for a problem that never existed in the first place. Unless you have learned gun safety you have no business owning a firearm.

I have read atricles of pure stupidity saying that the new locks on all SW revolvers are fine and ok. Let that author tell his BS to the man or woman that owns an SW revolver that dropped it on concrete and the safety "ENGAGED" by itself and the owner had no SW lock key to dis- engage the safety. Some of these gun writers have no clue what they are talking about, they write in order to please the advertisers and their respective editors, its all BS.

I have always been a realist. I buy LPS ELECTRICAL CONTACT CLEANER that is called MICRO X. It is very expensive, it is a superb cleaner and very safe on plastic of any kind. I am not about to buy a contact cleaner that contains METHYLENE CHLORIDE which is paint remover and will eat your plastic gun as you spray it.

I just love this parrallel, its like going to a LEXUS dealer and asking him how many miles per gallon does this Lexus get and can I use cheap regular gas in it. Your semi auto pistol is at the mercy of the ammunition you use. People that eat gargbage eventually get sick and die, its that simple. Only you can put a price on your life. MANY PEOPLE BUY AND USE CHEAP JUNK AMMUNITION IN THIS HIGH PRICED SEMI AUTO AT THE RANGE.

There is nothing wrong with reloaded ammunition but most people buy progressive presses and want to make as many rounds in an hour as humanly possible. I have reloaded ammunition since I am 18 years old. I only used a single stage press and it took me a good hour to make 50 rounds but they were superb. I never took a short cut, as in my trigger work I do not take short cuts of any kind.

Lives have always depended on me and they still do to some extent, I will only buy the best products money can buy. Your life is very important to me. I have now entered my fifth street gun project. I have been very pleased with most of the people we have had in these projects and I will continue to do this with my partner Mr. Camp as long as my health holds up.

I want to thank those people for reading my bloggers, hard times are coming. The middle class in this country is all but gone and unless you prepare for hard times now and own a firearm you will not survive.

Teddy




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NEW ITEMS AT ISMI SPRING COMPANY




NEW CHROME SILICON SPRINGS NOW AVAILABLE FROM ISMI SPRING COMPANY, CALL MARC AT 800 773 1940

Following is info for the J frame springs and the recoil springs for the
M&P.



J Frame spring set: hammer & trigger rebound - price $9.95 per set



Springs are wound from certified aerospace spec chrome silicon wire. After
winding the springs are then heat treated and stress relieved. The hammer
spring is slightly lighter than the nominal stock spring while the trigger
rebound spring is approximately 11% lighter than the stock spring. Bear in
mind, that due to variances in bulk lots of material, we have measured as
much as ± 25% variance in the load exerted by the stock music wire springs
as well as some of the more popular aftermarket music wire springs. The
design of the hammer spring will insure reliable ignition under all
circumstances and temperature extremes. The lighter trigger rebound spring
will provide for a smoother & lighter single action trigger pull.

Operating temperatures are important as wire mills do not recommend the use
of music wire when temperatures are 0° F or lower. The maximum service
temperature for music wire is 250° F but spring performance can be affected
at temperatures as low as 175° F. Chrome silicon has a service temperature
range of -100° F to 750° F.



Because of the design parameters, materials & post-winding processing; the
ISMI chrome silicon springs will take a significantly smaller amount of set
than their music wire counter parts.



Smith & Wesson M&P recoil springs - price $8.95 each



ISMI recoil springs for the S&W M&P pistols are wound from certified aerospace
spec chrome silicon wire. After winding the springs are heat treated and
stress relieved. The recoil springs utilize rectangular section spring wire
(flat wire) similar to the factory spring. The ISMI springs will work with
the factory guide rod. Spring life should increase 10X when compared to the
music wire counterpart. Spring rates available: 13#, 15#, 17#, 20# & 22#.

PLEASE NOTE THE TRIGGER RETURN SPRING (also known as the rebound slide spring) FOR THE "J" FRAME CAN BE USED IN ANY SW K, L, OR N FRAME....


Saturday, October 14, 2006

Attention 1911 Owners - Project Street Gun Modified

THIS COMMENTARY CONCERNS OUR PROJECT STREET GUN.

UPDATE - FRIDAY - OCTOBER 27, 2006 WE PLAN ON CLOSING

THE BOOKS ON THIS FIFTH PROJECT STREET GUN CLASS, SO IF

YOU WANT IN NOW IS THE LAST TIME TO CONTACT US, IF YOU

HAVE NOT PAID UP AND OR CAN NOT PLEASE CONTACT US.

THERE IS NO PROBLEM AND YOU CAN ALWAYS GET IN THE NEXT

PROJECT AS LONG AS YOU ARE HONEST AND PLAY IT STRAIGHT

WITH US....................................TJ



UPDATED - OCTOBER 25, 2006 - 8:40am - central time


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THE FOLLOWING IS AN EMAIL FROM A PROJECT MEMBER.

October 24, 2006

Teddy,

I just wanted to tell you how much I enjoyed Project Street Gun. I've
learned so much from your DVD and Mr. Camp's books. The DVD took me step by step
thru the whole process and you made everything so easy to understand. Your
patience and the sharing of your knowledge during all my phone calls greatly
exceeded my expectations. It's rare these days to find someone like you and Mr.
Camp who are so helpful. The best part about this experience is not only did
I find a Gunsmith I could trust I feel like I made a new friend. I am looking
forward to performing the Street Gun Project on my Series 80 pistol next.
Thank's for everything.


Frank D-----



PLEASE NOTE: AFTER GETTING MANY CALLS FROM PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY MUST ATTEND A CLASS, THIS IS NOT TRUE. NO ONE HAS TO GO ANYWHERE, THESE KITS ARE SUPPLIED TO EACH PROJECT MEMBER AND THEY CAN WORK AT THEIR HOME AT THEIR OWN PACE WHETHER IT BE WHEN THEY RECEIVE THE KIT OR 3 MONTHS FROM NOW OR 6 MONTHS FROM NOW OR ANY ANY FUTURE DAY THEY HAVE TIME. NO ONE IS EVER REQUIRED TO TRAVEL ANYWHERE FOR ANY REASON. THIS IS A DO IT AT HOME PROJECT WHEN YOU HAVE TIME.

Mr. Camp and I have decided after hearing from so many people that already own Colt Government model series 70 and series 80 Pistols, that it is time to offer them the very same kit we have been making for the Springfield Armory Mil-Spec 1911 pistols.

I am able to add some more people at this very time as we have some additional openings. If you have a Colt Series 70 with a straight spur hammer that has not been worked on this will work for me. If you have a Colt Series 80 with an oval hammer I can do this project for that design also using my Series 80 DVD.

As long as I know the very details of what 1911 you own I can make the kit. We buy the very best parts and springs and each kit will contain approx. 20 pieces. I will accept the Colt stainless steel pistols for this project. The Springfield Armory stainless steel pistols are much more of a problem for me.

I am having Stainless Steel hammer springs made for this project in the standard factory rating of 23 lbs so that there is no chance it will rust and corrode in the mainspring housing like music wire. I will not leave anything out in order to make a first class 1911 pistol. Mr. Camp and I both agree that quality must come first. Its not about money but about pride of workmanship.

My Colt Series 80 DVD explains everything in very clear detail and I will supply a new plunger Lever type "N" that has been discontinued that will give you optimum performance. Fortunately I have some of these very hard to get plunger lever "N" 's put away for this very project.

Basically this project for a Colt will be very similar to the Springfield Armory pistol. The difference will be in how I do a few things but the results will be excellent. This project is a learning curve for you. Our intent is to make you aware of total disassembly and reassembly and then you will start to understand how the design works.

This will not teach gunsmithing, that is what I will do for you with my work. You will just learn how to do it all yourself by changing the original parts with the ones that we supply. All hammer and sear engagements will be checked on a microscope. I do not need to have your frame to make your kit as my custom jigs will allow for that.

At this time I am going to extend the cut off date until next Friday which is October 20, 2006 to give a few of you a chance to read this.

THIS WILL NOT KEEP ME FROM MAKING THE KITS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE ALREADY SIGNED UP. WE ARE RIGHT ON SCHEDULE WITH OUR CURRENT PEOPLE. WE ARE JUST OPENING UP THE FIELD TO INCORPORATE THOSE WHO ALREADY OWN A COLT GOVERNMENT MODEL.

Please email me, my email is located on my website and you can use the link below.

if you have any interest and I will forward your email to Mr. Camp who takes care of all enrollment after I speak with everyone involved.


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Wednesday, October 11, 2006

REALITY - GET READY NOW

FRIDAY - OCTOBER 13, 2006 - THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT COMMENTARY I HAVE DECIDED TO LEAVE IT UP ANOTHER DAY OR SO. THIS IS A MUST READ. I SUGGEST YOU PRINT IT OUT AND SHOW IT TO PEOPLE.


What If ?
- by John Farnham


What if? Here is the "What if?" question that is silently circulating
among federal agencies: Israel is currently fighting, as far as it is
concerned, for its very national existence. Few in Israel don't
believe that every, last Israeli ( man, woman, child) in the entire
county will be casually massacred, in place, when Iran/Hezbollah
successfully invades.

When that happens, all of Western Europe will do little more than
scratch itself! Israel has not a friend in the world, save the USA,
and the UK. Curious that the same people who don't think the United
States should be fighting terrorists in Afghanistan and Iraq, wildly
cheer Israel for doing the identical thing in Lebanon! I guess it is
okay for them, but not for us, eh?

It is widely believed Israel has an arsenal of deliverable, nuclear
weapons. In fact, there is little doubt that is true. Iran will have
something along that line soon, and we all know Hezbollah to be simply
the "provisional branch" of the Iranian armed forces. Of course,
Russia and China have operational, nuclear arsenals too, as do, to a
lesser extent, India, and Pakistan. In addition, there is a
considerable amount of fissionable material, left over from the Cold
War, that is completely unaccounted for.

Heaven knows where it is!
So, there is a high probability, getting higher with each passing day,
that an above-ground nuke will go off, on purpose, somewhere in the
world before the current crisis subsides (if it ever does). There well
may be more than just one!

When that happens, this is what we can look forward to here in the
USA:
Life, for us, will change forever.

Airports will shut down immediately. In fact, all travel, save
walking, will be extremely restricted. Plan on being treated like a
criminal no matter where you go. Plan on not getting anywhere fast.
Those caught away from home will be stranded for weeks or months. For
Americans vacationing in foreign countries, even Mexico and Canada,
reentry will be all but impossible.
"Martial Law," or some version of it, will be imposed in every place.
That means curfews, endless checkpoints, and mass detention centers,
everywhere.

Television and radio will be offline. Hard, reliable news will be
difficult to come by. Wild rumors will circulate, unchecked.
Communication via telephone, cell phone, and computer will be cut off
immediately. The whole system will melt down. Restoration will be slow
and tedious. It may be weeks before you know the status of separated
friends and family.

All sales of guns and ammunition will be stopped immediately, along
with sales of liquor, fuel, and some drugs.

Military mobilization, on a national level, will commence in earnest.
Most roads, mass transit, heavy vehicles, busses, aircraft, and ships
will be immediately commandeered for military use.

Politicians, at all levels, will take extreme measures to protect
themselves. The rest of us will be the recipients of little more than
lip service. We'll see paranoid mayors, like [Mayor] Nagin in New
Orleans, send their police house to house confiscating legally-owned
firearms, ammunition, even food (you'll be accused of "hoarding") from
good and decent people who are unlikely to resist violently. The
indecency of such public criminality will never even occur to them.
As we saw in New Orleans, violent criminals, individually and in
gangs, will commit burglaries, robberies, arson, rape, and murder,
largely unhindered by police (who will be completely overwhelmed).

Those caught unprepared will, as always, make useful victims.
There will be chronic shortages of everything you can imagine. Cash
will become worthless. Until some universal faith in government is
earned and eventually restored, the new currency will be food,
ammunition, and batteries.
Decent people, entire neighborhoods, will have to band together for
protection. Large sections of urban areas will be considered too
dangerous to enter, even by police. In France, this is the case now!
Delivery of basic, infrastructure services, like water, gas, and
electricity, will become intermittent and unreliable.

I promise you, liberal, anti-gun snobs will be the first ones at your
doorstep sheepishly begging to borrow one of yours!

Many among the naive and unprepared will not live through it.
Individual preparedness, including reserves of food, water, guns,
ammunition, personal competence and resolve, et al, will see you
through it. while
My advice is to get prepared now, while you still
can. "What if?" is, in fact, the wrong question. "What when?" is the
right one! - John Farnham Defense Training International, Inc.


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Saturday, October 7, 2006

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A Look at Corbon .357 Magnum 125-gr. DPX Ammunition

By Stephen Camp

In 1935 the .357 Magnum was born. It was conceived after a gun writer of the period worked up energetic handloads in .38 Special using the S&W .38/44 (N-frame) revolvers. His name was Phillip Sharpe and it seems that Douglas Wesson was mightily impressed by the way it performed in the hunting field. Smith & Wesson soon built an N-frame revolver for the new cartridge.

The .357 Magnum cartridge is 0.135" longer than the parent cartridge from which it was derived. This was not so much for increased case capacity as it was to make sure that the much hotter load was not loaded into a .38 Special revolver.

.357 Magnum Specifications:

Cartridge LOA: 1.590" maximum

Case Length: 1.290"

Case Trim Length: 1.285"

Primer Size: Small Pistol

SAAMI Maximum Average Pressure: 45,000 CUP

Bullet Weight Range: Usually about 110 to 180 grains

Traditional Bullet Weight: 158 grains

The .357 was used all over the world to take all manner of large game, some of which would be considered too much for the caliber today. It gained a good reputation in the hunting field. Its effectiveness was probably exaggerated a bit, but it also worked its way into this country's police holsters and the hands of private citizens wanted what might have been called the "most powerful handgun on earth"…at least until the .44 Magnum came along about 20 years later.

We'll focus on the defense aspects of the .357 Magnum in this article and see what Corbon's new 125-gr. DPX load has to offer.

Hunting or Defense Applications?

Since this cartridge sees sporting use in the hunting arena as well as defensive duty in suburban "jungles", it might be worthwhile to briefly touch on differences between ammo intended for hunting and that engineered to deck a felon.

In the hunting field we never know exactly the shot angle that the animal might offer. We are more interested in getting into the vitals from any reasonable angle for the caliber being used and would like an exit wound to enhance bleeding. That does two things: It hastens the animal's death and allows for a better blood trail. Unless hunting dangerous game it is not essential that the animal drop in its tracks (though it is nice) so long as death is forthcoming and we can track the animal via a blood trail.

Heavy recoil is to be expected and is a secondary consideration. Fast repeat shots are not the norm with hunters. They want to make the first shot the only shot if possible but all shots are precisely aimed. Though some hunters do like expanding bullets when hunting, it is my observation that if it comes to expansion or adequate penetration, they'll choose the latter. This is why flat-nose FMJ, hard cast SWC's, and less-aggressive expanding bullet's like Hornady's XTP are popular with those seeking game with their hunting handguns. Accuracy is also of prime consideration for handgun hunters.

Examples of .357 "hunting" ammunition usually exhibit bullets from the heavier end of this cartridge's weight spectrum. Corbon offers their "Corbon Hunter" line which features .357 loads with 180 and 200 grain bullets moving at 1200 and 1150 ft/sec, respectively when fired from 4" barrels.

If these loads with heavy bullets are good for killing deer and other larger quarry, why not use them for self-defense?

When looking at defense applications of the .357 Magnum, we see that while some aspects are common between the hunter and defender, others are quite different.

How "hard" a .357 "kicks" depends on a couple of things besides the subjective observation of the shooter. One is the load being used. The other is the size and weight of the revolver being used. Revolvers initially built in this caliber were the large S&W N-frames. The Model 27 in its 3 1/2" barrel was used by FBI agents and its near double but less nicely finished Model 28 Highway Patrolman graced Texas Department of Public Safety Troopers' holsters for decades. Eventually S&W introduced the .357 Model 19 Combat Magnum. This was built on their medium size K-frame. Obviously a full-power 158-gr. SWC is going to "kick" more from the Combat Magnum than from the heavier Highway Patrolman. Eventually complaints about long-term "fragility" with the K-frames when fed heavy diets of magnums led to the slightly larger and beefed up L-frame. Examples are the popular Model 686 in various barrel lengths. I saw lots of these in police holsters until the law enforcement community began the rapid change to semiautomatics in the last half of the 1980's. Today it seems to be the exception rather than the rule to see uniformed officers toting double-action revolvers. (You can bet that some small revolvers are carried as backup guns.)

This .357 Magnum from S&W is the Model 27, has a 3.5" barrel, and is an example of their N-frame revolver size.

Here we have two examples of the S&W (K-frame) Model 19 Combat Magnums. These guns were enormously popular in police circles when I began policing in the early 1970's.

It wasn't long before the notion of lawful concealed handgun carry by private citizens began to become reality in many states…and I'm happy to say that more are being added to the list all the time. Evidently enough wanted an easily concealable .357 Magnum revolver that makers began cranking them out. What was said about recoil in the K vs. N-frame also applies in spades to the small J-frame and especially the latest super lightweight models. A .357 load that is comfortable in an N-frame might not be "bad" in an L-frame, tolerable in a K-frame, but torture in the small steel J-frame and hell on earth in the super small titanium guns.

Here we see a couple of Corbon .357 Magnum 125-gr. DPX cartridges flanked by the popular Ruger SP101 (left) and the S&W "Customs Service" version of the Model 686 (right). If the same load is fired in both revolvers, the smaller lighter SP101 will exhibit greater felt recoil than the larger heavier L-frame. The Ruger is by no means the lightest small revolver in this caliber and it can get "energetic" with some full-power magnum loads.

Such does not lend itself to either accurate shooting or fast repeat shots that might be called for in a fight for one's life. Buyers of small .357 Magnums want more power than is offered from the hotter .38 Specials but nothing is gained if the load is uncontrollable.

Where hunters are usually seeking their quarry from daylight to dusk, a self-defense scenario can unfold in dark or semi-dark conditions. Thus, muzzle flash can be a consideration in self-defense ammunition.

The hunter seeks to kill what he hunts, but unless it is a dangerous animal it isn't a life-or-death matter if it drops right where it was hit or travels a few yards before collapsing. When shooting to save our lives, we are not shooting to kill but to stop. That an unlawful aggressor might die from being shot is certainly possible, but our primary purpose in shooting him was to immediately stop his actions when no other reasonable alternative existed.

At the same time we do not want too shallow of penetration so that a "stop" cannot be had, but we also fear a bullet overpenetrating and winding up in some innocent third person's forehead. (I sometimes think this concern is more in the mind than actual threat, but there are examples of it happening.)

Based primarily on the FBI standards for acceptable bullet performance, many opine that penetration of at least 12" of ballistic gelatin is necessary to reach deeply enough within an adult male torso should that bullet pass through an intermediate target such as an arm before entering it. Some prefer 12 to 14". What we don't want is a bullet passing through a solid adult torso with enough power left to kill or injure anyone else. At the same time we want the bullet to be reliable in expanding. We want it to open as designed even if it passes through intermediate "hard" barriers like wood or glass before smacking into our adversary.

In short, we want "enough" but not "too much" and we do demand quite a lot from bullet makers.

Evolution of Defense Ammunition:

Originally when a person opted for a .357 with factory ammunition, they got the full-power 158-gr. swaged SWC. I am personally aware of two instances in which Remington 158-gr. SWC full-power .357 Magnum rounds were used, neither with the desired immediate effect. One involved an officer with another agency having to shoot a knife-wielding opponent. Though struck solidly in the torso, he required two shots before he finally quit advancing. This actually was not bad performance, but this shooting occurred in a residential area at night with most folks home. Both rounds completely penetrated the aggressor and while no innocent persons were hit, the bullets or what they might have hit were never found. The other incident involved a woman with mental problems who murdered her husband. As he slept she entered the bedroom and beginning below belt level worked her way up his torso with the same load mentioned previously. Evidently he sat up after the 5th shot passed through his torso for the sixth was found in the wall after it passed through his head via the left eye socket. This one did the trick for the psychotic wife. Though his eyelid was found stuck to the ceiling, his head was not grossly misshapen from the magnum's impact. The five bullets fired while he was supine completely penetrated his torso, mattress, box springs and were in the wood floor beneath the death bed.

In both cases the revolvers were Smith & Wesson's and both had 4" barrels. Evidently the officer's aim was better as his opponent "stopped" and died after two rounds while the deranged woman's sixth shot stopped all further movement from her husband forever.

Concerns about "stopping power" led to the use of JHP ammunition with the 125-gr. semi-jacketed hollow point from Remington or the Federal 125-gr. JHP gaining top honors amongst gun writers for years. Winchester had .357 Magnum Silvertips in both 125 and 145-grain weights. Both were popular ammunition with law enforcement. In 10% ballistic gelatin the 125-grain loads usually penetrated between 12 and 14" while the 145-gr. Silvertip penetrated a bit deeper.

The problem was that heavy clothing could sometimes clog bullets so that expansion was retarded or nil and most of the 125-grain loads fragmented. I have never seen either a full-power Remington or Federal 125-gr. JHP that failed to expand in a human being, but they do frequently fragment. For years this was considered a good thing by some but after the Miami Fiasco on April 11th, 1986, the call for deeper penetration without bullet fragmentation replaced the call for aggressive expansion.

During this time frame there was much R&D by bullet manufacturers, especially in 9mm, since "high-capacity" 9mm semiautomatics were gaining much ground among the rank and file of law enforcement. Operating in the same general velocity range and being nearly the same diameter, much of the improved 9mm's bullet technology translated easily to the .357 Magnum.

With more and more private citizens carrying more and more concealed .357 revolvers, some ammunition makers began offering the newer designs at attenuated speeds. Though not full power they still offered more "whammy" at the receiving end than did the .38 Special +P from the same barrel lengths. Remington came out with a "mid range" .357 Magnum SJHP and later with their "new technology" Golden Saber. Other companies followed suit and today we find "short barrel" loads offered more than ever before and with bullets that expand reliably over a fairly wide velocity range.

One of the latest entries is from Corbon and is designated "DPX" for "Deep Penetrating X-bullet." Let's take a close look at this ammunition and see if it might fill a niche in our own defensive revolvers.

Corbon .357 Magnum 125-gr. DPX:

The bullet is constructed of a homogeneous copper alloy and has a wide deep hollow cavity measuring approximately 0.177" wide by 0.350" deep if measured as close as possible to its cone-shaped bottom. Looking inside the hollow cavity it becomes clear that the bullet is either pre-stressed or scored so that it will exhibit six uniform "petals" when it expands. There is no jacket to possibly separate or fragment and no lead core that might break apart, depending upon what was struck.

Here is the Corbon 125-gr. 357 DPX bullet. Note the scoring or pre-stressed areas on the inside wall of the hollow cavity. This bullet is not likely to fragment. The DPX line of bullets has a good reputation for expanding reliably after passing through barriers including the now standard 4-layers-of-denim.

Corbon's .357 DPX load uses new nickel-plated Remington cases and the primers are sealed. At the right we see a disassembled cartridge. LOA measures 1.577". Bullet diameter measures 0.356" and this one weighed 125.1 grains and the powder charge, 7.8 grains. The powder is flash retardant. Nominal listed velocity from a 4" revolver barrel is 1300 ft/sec. This load is designed to penetrate at least 12" of 10% ballistic gelatin. (It is not unusual for expanding bullets other than cast or swaged to be slightly undersized for caliber. The expand to fit the bore under the pressures generated upon firing.)

I disassembled the cartridge shown above using a kinetic bullet puller; it was tough! Corbon has made sure that these bullets are most unlikely to unseat themselves during the sharp recoil impulse which common to the super light snub revolvers. Even though this is not usually a problem in steel compacts, it is reassuring to know that Corbon has engineered this ammunition to work in all .357 Magnum revolvers.

The Corbon 125-gr. DPX is shown here (above left) with a Hornady XTP. Both weigh 125-gr., but the X-bullet contains no lead. It is less dense than the jacketed XTP, which does. Note that both have very prominent crimping grooves. At the right we see the Corbon DPX flanked by two other .357 Magnum loads. The other two are both from Remington. The top one is their Golden Saber and the bottom is their full-power semi-jacketed hollow point.

Shooting:

Shooting was done for accuracy and done at distances of 15 yards & 25 yards, slow-fire using a rest. These distances should far surpass the majority of distances common to deadly force situations. I am not interested in ammunition that is not capable of greater accuracy than I can use even if I probably cannot attain what it's capable of in a stress situation. Comments concerning felt recoil will also be given, but keep in mind that such comments are always subjective.

I tried to use different size revolvers as much as possible. The smallest 357 revolver I own is a Ruger SP101 with a 3 1/16" barrel. It represents the compact 3" guns so popular these days. The shortest barreled K-frame 357 I have is an S&W Model 19 with a 2 1/2" barrel. It represents the K-frames and the snubs. Since the longest barrel usually seen used for self-protection is 4", I used my S&W Model 28 to represent that group as well as the N-frame owners.

15 yards:

Five shots were fired slow-fire at 15 yards using a rest with the 2 1/2" bbl Model 19. Recoil was quite mild and this revolver had been sighted in for Remington .357 Magnum 125-gr. Golden Sabers. I was not surprised to see that the DPX was "on" with that sight setting.

Next up was the Ruger SP101 with its 3 1/16" barrel. This was the best group of the day and is probably luck. This fixed sight revolver hits dead bang "on" with 145-gr. STHP's at this distance using a center hold on the bullseye. Like the Remington 125-gr. .357 Golden Sabers, the Corbon 125-gr. DPX hits just about a half-inch or so low at this distance…at least for me. Recoil was just a little "snappier" than from the snub K-frame with its larger size and handle.

This 4" Model 28 N-frame was like shooting a "pop gun" with the DPX rounds. This one was still sighted in for a 158-gr. handload and the 125-gr. DPX hit slightly low and left by roughly 1.5".

25 Yards:

From the 2.5" Model 19, the DPX load that had been "on" at 15 yards was approximately 2.5" high at 25 yards. If carrying this ammo in this revolver, I'd go with a dead-on hold at 15 yards and under, but six o' clock at 25 yards.

The Ruger SP101's POI didn't change that much when coupled with my human imprecision. I cannot tell if the group actually struck slightly higher or if my POA was just a bit higher. For whatever reasons, I can go dead on out to at least 25 yards and using this revolver with this ammo, a dead-on sight picture should be well within "minute of felon heart" expectations.

Some will criticize for not doing more "practical" shooting since this is self-protection ammunition. What must be remembered is that I didn't have a limitless supply of this ammo and my reasoning remains that if it will group well when shooting for precision, it will certainly be "accurate enough" for the quick and dirty drills.

I did not shoot the S&W M28 at 25 yards since its sights were off for the DPX load. There is no mystery here; I didn't want to change the sights from their current setting as that is usually but a two load gun: the 158-gr. CSWC handload and 145-gr. Winchester Silvertips. I have no doubt that the 4" revolver would group quite satisfactorily with the 125-gr. Corbon DPX.

Expansion Testing:

I do not have the money for 10% ballistic gelatin testing. Even if I did, I damned sure don't have a climate-controlled laboratory in which to test it at the constant temperature required for repeatable results. My informal expansion work was done using water and then by shooting into super-saturated newsprint. Corbon 125-gr. 357 Magnum DPX was fired from all three guns. Therefore, we can see its expansion when fired from a 2 1/2, 3 1/16, and 4" barrel. Firing was done 5' from the newsprint and 25' from the water.

Here are the results. The numbers in the left column designate barrel length while "WP" stands for "wetpack", what soaked newsprint is sometimes called. "W" simply means water. I measured across the widest points of the bullets that expanded in water and weighed them as well. None lost over 0.1 grains according to my scale. I did not weigh those fired in the wetpack since some of it is embedded in the bullet.

The DPX fired into water from the 2 1/2" Model 19 measured 0.685" across and 0.573" tall. From the Ruger, we got 0.701" wide by 0.567" tall. The 4" barrel resulted in an expanded DPX measuring 0.651" wide by 0.561" in height. As you can see, the results in wetpack are visually quite similar.

Here is a side view of the Corbon 125-gr. DPX. These bullets were fired from the Ruger. The one on the left struck super-saturated newsprint while the one on the right hit water. You can see that these bullets do not attempt to turn inside out as do some aggressive expanders and they do not fragment resulting in loss of mass. I strongly suspect that they will make quite "nice" wound channels.

I also fired a few other maker's bullets from the same revolvers to allow a visual comparison with the DPX.

Here we see different bullets fired into wetpack. The DPX bullets at the bottom of each picture were the only ones fired into water. On the left from the S&W and from top to bottom are Winchester 145-gr. STHP,

Remington 125-gr. Golden Saber, Remington 125-gr.SJHP (full power), and Corbon 125-gr. DPX. From the Ruger on the right and top to bottom are Remington 125-gr. Golden Saber, Winchester 145-gr. STHP, Remington 125-gr. SJHP (fragmented) and Corbon 125-gr. DPX. Results from the 4" barrel were virtually identical.

Chronograph Work:

The average velocities for each revolver were determined by firing 10 shots each approximately 10' from the chronograph screens.

Corbon .357 125-gr. DPX

Revolver/Bbl "

Low (ft/sec)

High (ft/sec)

Average (ft/sec)

ES (ft/sec)

SD (ft/sec)

S&W M19/2 1/2

1110

1155

1133

45

21

SP101/3.16

1152

1205

1176

54

24

S&W M28/4

1167

1233

1196

66

27

It appears that this load is fairly consistent with regard to velocity. Increasing the barrel length by 1 1/2" only resulted in an average velocity gain of 63 ft/sec, but going from 2 1/2" to 3 1/16" resulted in an average velocity gain of only 20 ft/sec less.

This is one of the very few times that actual measured velocities did not equal or exceed Corbon's listed velocities for a load. From the Ruger and the 4" S&W we got within 100 ft/sec on the high readings, but average velocities were 124 ft/sec and 104 ft/sec less, respectively. My observations with this company's ammunition have usually been average velocities running 50 to 75 ft/sec faster than what is published. This no doubt explains why felt recoil was considerably less than expected.

Conclusion & Observations:

This new load from Corbon proved to be capable of very good accuracy and it reliably expanded. Though not picture perfect, the bullets consistently opened up and held together. As mentioned earlier, flash retardant powder is used in this ammunition and the bullet is expected to penetrate at least 12" of 10% ballistic gelatin.

No news here but it had greatest felt recoil in the SP101 with its smaller handle, much less in the Model 19, and was negligible in the 4" N-frame. If one is recoil sensitive but wants more ballistic performance than with the hot .38's, this would be a load for consideration.

There were no failures to fire and cases extracted easily from all three of the test guns. Cleaning the barrels required no more work than usual. In other words, the copper alloy X-bullet did not excessively foul the bore.

I would like to see the velocity a bit closer to the 1300 ft/sec range from a 4" barrel, but can "live" with the load as is.

All Corbon DPX ammunition is packaged in 20 round boxes. For information on pricing and other calibers available, take a look at www.corbon.com

For those interested, Corbon also offers a line of "traditional" aggressively expanding JHP's in several calibers and these do meet or exceed published velocity figures. They also offer heavy bullets in their deep penetrating, heavy bullet hunting loads as well as their unique "PowRball" line of aggressively expanding ammunition.

My carry load for the SP101 has been the Remington 125-gr. Golden Saber. This mid-range .357 load is simply easier to control than more powerful loads. It averaged 1189 ft/sec from the gun with a standard deviation about the same as the Corbon DPX. As reported earlier, the DPX from this revolver averaged 1176 ft/sec, virtually equivalent to the Golden Saber. My SP101 will be loaded with DPX once I clean it up.

We have seen several bullet designs hit the market and often be tweaked and refined into even better versions. The DPX line is new. I have no doubt that with time this already good bullet design will become even better.