Monday, August 14, 2006

Stephen Camp Article

The Enduring Snubnose

By Stephen Camp

Almost since handguns hit the scene there has been an effort to reduce their size for carrying and concealment purposes. Examples would include the small derringers and pepperbox handguns that settled many a dispute over who actually won a hand of poker. The Peacemaker had its barrel shortened and ejector rod removed and was sold as the "Sheriff's Model" if memory serves.

The trend continued into the 20th century as well. John M. Browning and others were designing and companies making various "pocket" automatics that sold like hotcakes.

During the last century, another pocket gun came on the scene and remains popular to this day; it is the snubnose revolver. Initially, about the only quality snubs were made by Colt and Smith & Wesson, but these days, we find primarily S&W, Ruger, and Taurus dominating that market niche with Rossi and Charter Arms trailing.

Why is this so? Why does the "antiquated" snub continue to garner a sizeable share of the concealed carry market when the more "advanced" compact automatics are so available? Once the province of the .32 and .380 ACP, very small pistols chambered in 9mm and forty are readily available. Either of these ballistically surpass the .38 Special out of a short barrel and most hold more than the 5 (six at most) shots offered by the revolver.

The Colt Agent was an attempt to further reduce the weight and already small size of Colt's immensely popular Detective Special. This revolver has an aluminum frame and the grip has been shortened a fraction of an inch from that of the aluminum-framed Cobra or all steel Detective Special. These revolvers competed against not only the popular S&W K-frame Model 10 and 12, but their diminutive J-frame models like the Model 36, 37, 38, etc., as well as those versions with aluminum "Airweight" frames. Not much larger than the J-frame, the Colt Detective Special et al, held 6 shots like the K-frames and this was touted as an advantage in the old Colt ads.

I believe that there are several reasons for the long and continuing "life" of the snub. Some might be pretty obvious while others are more subtle. If the perspective buyer of a defensive handgun is choosing a snub as his primary defensive weapon to the exclusion of others, he's almost certainly "into protection," but not really "into guns." It's a safe bet that most of us believe that there are certainly better primary defense handguns with which to deal with the majority of self-protection scenarios. "Thirty-eight special" has name recognition and most are aware that it was the predominant police service cartridge in the US for many decades. This person may not be aware of what a 9mm or .40 actually are. This description does not fit all buyers of snubs of course, but will describe some. Others will appreciate the simplicity of use while some will like the fact that it is small, not realizing that more practice and skill is required to use the little thing effectively. Some, not locked into the idea of revolver only, will look at the .38 Special cartridge next to a .380 or 9mm and because it's larger assume that it just must be more "powerful".

A substantial number of the snubs are sold as backup or secondary concealed weapons for those very serious about self-protection or in law enforcement. In this role, I think the snub comes into its own and remains an extremely good choice.

This S&W Model 642 fired the discontinued Corbon 115-gr +P+ JHP at an average velocity of 1188 ft/sec. Current Corbon 110-gr JHP +P hit almost exactly the same average velocity from the little gun. With most factory loads, 9mm standard pressure ammo will soundly beat any of the +P thirty-eight's out of the snub. This does show that there are exceptions to every rule. I do not carry this load, as I believe it too "hot" for the J-frame's thin forcing cone. (It is "memorable" to shoot, too!)

The snub is often recommended as a gun for the non-shooter who wants a self-defense handgun; I think that's partially wrong. While I do agree with the revolver part of the suggestion, I believe that the ability to get decent hits with the snub is proportionately more difficult than the difference in barrel lengths between the 3 or 4" revolver. It has been my observation that the small snubs require practice in order to be effectively used. For the neophyte, the increased recoil of the little gun can be detrimental as well.

Yet, the small snubs continue to sell.

No longer in police service, my orbits are extremely tame and my lifestyle, low-risk. Yet, I have seen "what is out there," and insist on being armed 24/7. I've tried several handguns for this role and after several years of "experimenting," have settled on the S&W J-frame, almost always a Model 642. It is the right size and weight for pocket carry and an extra speed loader in my pocket offers a total of ten rounds and carries easier than a spare magazine for an automatic. Though I much prefer the looks of a blued revolver, the stainless steel is more practical here in Texas where we have two versions of hot weather: summer and super-summer! Five shots has nothing to spare and is less than I prefer between reloads, but it is probably sufficient for unexpected encounters of the worst kind that I'm likely to face.

These two loads are my first choices for self-protection in my J-frame snubs. On the left is the now discontinued standard pressure Federal 125-gr Nyclad hollow point. On the right is Remington's 158-gr +P lead semiwadcutter hollow point. The Federal load is more pleasant to shoot and averages nearly 900 ft/sec from my Model 042, and a bit slower from my stainless one. Likewise, the Remington round averages about 838 ft/sec from the blue 042 and 800 ft/sec from the 642. Neither is a powerhouse, but with placement does offer at least viable terminal ballistics. The snub is a compromise in my opinion. We sacrifice some "firepower" for convenience in a gun that is so capable of always "being there."

I find the convenience and reliability of this revolver to meet my perceived needs for daily wear around the house and in my low-risk activity. It is on my person from when I get up until I go to retire for bed and then, it is near by. Is it the perfect defense gun? Certainly not, but there are niches it fills better for me than any other handgun I've tried.

The majority of handgun shooters that I'm acquainted with own at least one thirty-eight snub and while the small 9mm's like the Glock 26 or Kahr series have made inroads into the BUG market, something keeps the little snubnoses selling, too. I suggest it is their simplicity, proven design, "style recognition," and reliability. For someone willing to invest the time in quality practice, I think they'll meet most of the deadly force scenarios that the private citizen might encounter. Actually, I usually bet my life on it, as the snub is all I'll have the majority of the time. I do not believe that it meets all requirements that a defensive handgun might be called upon to meet and if a person's interested in but one handgun to do this, I respectfully suggest that it be either a service type automatic or 4" K-frame revolver. I'd pick either over the snub if I knew a fight was imminent and forced to use a handgun.

While snubs are available in the larger revolvers like this S&W Model 19, I think they make more sense in the smaller size revolvers. This K-frame .357 is too large for pocket carry unlike the J's, and when carried on a belt, the 4" gun is about as easy to carry while offering superior ballistics and longer sight radius.

The little snub guns filled a perceived need or niche in the handgun market, particularly as more and more states pass concealed carry laws for their citizens. I think we'll see the gun in some form or another for many years to come. S&W and Taurus offer a myriad of models in this type revolver and today, one can buy an all-steel or aluminum-framed snub or go with the newer titanium or scandium revolvers.

For the person not really "into shooting," but wanting to cover all bases for a defensive battery of handguns, these two S&W revolvers would be a very viable choice in my opinion.

The snub .38 is a compromise as is the case with many things in life. With some understanding of what it can realistically do combined with quality practice, I think it offers quite a bit for folks concerned with personal safety.

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Sunday, August 13, 2006

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SIG-Sauer P-220 Chronograph Results

By Stephen Camp

That the .45 ACP is a popular self-defense cartridge in the US is an understatement. It is probably the "yardstick" by which other defensive cartridges are measured. Most popular is probably the full-size 1911 having a 5" barrel, but smaller handguns are frequently used.

Some people are just not comfortable with cocked and locked carry and a frequent choice for them is the SIG-Sauer P-220 pistol. This is a conventional DA/SA pistol complete with a decocker. This single-stack pistol is carried hammer down with the first shot being fired by either a double-action trigger pull or by manually cocking the pistol.

Today, I chronographed ammunition with bullet weights varying from 165 to 230 grains and including both standard and +P ammunition. A couple of newer defense loads were included and one was fired into water for informal expansion testing.

Going against popular opinion these days, I do not share a fondness for the super compact .45 ACP handguns available today. The low-pressure .45 sets no velocity records out of the traditional 5" barrel for which it was designed and shortening the barrel can drastically reduce velocity. This seems to be the case more with .45 ACP than the higher pressure 9mm.

Most of the data seen these days is from the 5" barrel. I will compare some of the loads from the SIG-Sauer's 4.25" with those of the 3/4" longer 1911 Government Model barrel. (SIG-Sauer lists the barrel as being 4.4" long, but measuring from the muzzle to the rear of chamber measures 4.25." Perhaps they included the hood as part of the total barrel length?)

This is neither a "range report" as I've already done one on this pistol that's available on several sites such as www.pistolsmith.com or www.1911forum.com. Neither is it one of the "Critical Look" articles exclusive to this site although one is probably coming. It is simply a report on the measured velocities of some common defensive rounds from the SIG-Sauer pistol and some informal expansion testing with some observations on certain newer rounds from both the P-220 and the full-size 1911.

The Pistol: Today's shooting was done with a stock P-220 .45 ACP that I purchased several years ago. It has been "customized" only by the adding of a small strip of skateboard tape to the front strap.

Ammunition: Testing was done with the following ammunition and the average velocities shown are based on 10 shots fired approximately 10' from the chronograph screens

Ammo Average Velocity (Ft/sec) Extreme Spread/Std. Deviation (Ft/sec)

Corbon 165-gr

PowRball +P 1189 33/13

Remington UMC 185-gr

MC "Flat Nose" 949 58/18

Federal Classic 185-gr

JHP (45C) 944 22/7

Taurus 185-gr Hex HP bullet 926 19/7

Corbon 200-gr JHP +P 975 34/12

Winchester Ranger 230-gr

RA45T JHP 857 10/4

Federal Classic 230-gr JHP

(45D) 839 25/8

Speer 230-gr Gold Dot

Hollow Point 823 31/10

Remington 230-gr Golden

Saber BJHP 822 34/13

Federal 230-gr HydraShok 871 42/14

Winchester 230-gr Subsonic

JHP (XSUB45A) 834 23/10

Winchester USA 230-gr FMJ 771 17/7

Comparison to Velocities from 5" 1911:

Ammo SIG-Sauer P-220 w/4.4" bbl (Ft/sec) 1911 5" (Ft/sec)

Corbon 165-gr.

PowRball +P 1189 1220

Corbon 200-gr

JHP +P 975 1019

Remington 230-gr

Golden Saber BJHP 822 847

Federal 230-gr Hydrashok 871 870

Speer 230-gr Gold Dot

Hollow Point 816 823

Winchester 230-gr Subsonic

JHP 834 845

Winchester 230-gr RA45T 857 841

It appears that .45 ACP velocity remains essentially the same in the slightly shorter P-220 barrel as with the 5" 1911. If the barrel is reduced by an inch or so more as in the case of the really compact 1911 pistols sold today, velocity drops significantly. For this reason I do not care to go below the 4 1/4" inch barrel as is found on the 1911 Commander and the P-220.

Winchester's "Deep Penetrating" 230-gr. JHP bearing the "Subsonic" logo is not the same round as their law enforcement only RA45T.

Of the seven compared loads, 5 are faster in the longer barrel, even if by but 1 ft/sec in one case! Two are faster in the SIG-Sauer barrel, but none are extreme in velocity differences.

One of the newer defensive rounds on the market are Corbon's 165-gr. "PowRball." This is somewhat similar to Federal's "Expanding Full Metal Jacket," but seems to penetrate and expand more consistently in both bare gelatin and 10% ballistic gelatin after passing through various barriers like plywood and the 4-layers of denim that's become a "necessary" standard.

The expanded bullet on the left is a .45 ACP 165-gr PowRball recovered from the "scientific mud expansion test." The one on the right was fired from a 5" 1911 into water. It expanded to a smaller diameter than the one from mud and its jacket did separate from the bullet. There was no jacket separation in the bullet recovered from mud. Even though the bullet on the right impacted at higher velocity, the one on the left shows greater expansion. I suspect that part of this is actually deformation on top of expansion and believe that the bullet on the right probably better represents what to expect in "soft targets."

Another new round is from Taurus, a company usually associated with firearm manufacturing. It is a solid copper bullet with a large hollow point. In 10% gelatin tests, the bullet has performed well. As is noted in the previous ammunition velocity tables, it is not particularly fast.


This is Taurus' entry into expanding handgun ammunition for the .45 ACP.

Fired into water, the hex head bullet impacted at an average velocity of 926 ft/sec.


I was not particularly impressed with the 185 grain Taurus Hex Head hollow point when fired into water. The recovered bullet weighed 184.2 grains. Expanded diameter was 0.60 x 0.64."

All of the ammunition fired today was capable of very good accuracy. Groups shown below were fired at 15 yards off-hand and there is considerable human error involved in each 5-shot group. Inferences as to which load is most accurate should not be made.


Any of the loads shown here are more accurate than can be held in defensive situations. None are "inaccurate."


Once again, we see that all of the ammunition shot for groups is more than adequately accurate for self-protection, be they at the low or high end of the bullet weight range.



Remington's 230 grain Golden Saber grouped very well…when I did my part. The shot on the left was not the gun or the ammunition's fault.

Of the ammunition fired today, were I picking a load for personal protection, my first choice would be Winchester's RA45T followed by the Corbon 165 grain PowRball. If I couldn't get either of those, I'd probably go with either the Golden Saber or the Hydrashok even though the latter is considered "poor" by some as it routinely fails the 4-layers of denim test. Whether it does or not, it is still at least forty-five caliber and perhaps the felon won't be wrapped in four layers of denim…if any!

Though discontinued, the Corbon 200-gr JHP +P remains a favorite load in the P-220. It uses the old Speer "Flying Ashtray" JHP and this round does expand and sometimes fragment in tissue. At least it has in animals I've shot with it. Recalcitrant in feeding with some pistols, it worked flawlessly in the P-220.


Though an "old technology" bullet and one that's been replaced with Speer's Gold Dot, I believe this to still be a very decent defense round. It has proven extremely accurate out of the P-220 after several hundred rounds. I wouldn't hesitate to use it for "serious" purposes, but do believe that there are better choices. That more dependable bullets do exist don't automatically make the older loads ineffective.


Though this Federal 230-gr Hydrashok was fired from a 1911 into water, results would probably be similar from the P-220 as it actually displayed an average velocity within 1 ft/sec of the 1911's.


These two .45 ACP Winchester Ranger "T" (RA45T) hollow points were fired into water from a five-inch 1911. As the average velocity of the P-220 and that gun are less than 20 ft/sec different, I strongly believe that identical expansion characteristics can be expected.

In today's shooting, there were no malfunctions of any kind. I was pleased that at 15 yards, there was also no great change in POI vs. POA. With the exception of the Winchester 230-gr "Subsonic" JHP, which I've never been able to get to reliably expand in anything or the 230-gr ball, I'd feel pretty well protected using any of this ammunition in a P-220 or Commander, but would not go to shorter barrels with any of it except the PowRball. It's reported to work fine from the shorter barreled pistols. Winchester's +P version of the law enforcement load shot today is said to work well in them, too.


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Friday, August 11, 2006

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Unsung Best Buy: A Critical Look at the Taurus PT-92

In 1973, IMBEL of Brazil quit producing their version of the .45 ACP 1911 pistol as the military had decided to go with the Nato standard 9mm and had adopted the Beretta Model 92 pistol. A Brazilian subsidiary of Beretta was producing the Model 92, but was bought by Taurus who has been selling the pistol since the early '80's.*

My luck with Taurus firearms in general has been positive, but I do prefer their automatics to their revolvers. I've also not owned many different models of their pistols. It should be noted that quite a few folks have had problems with Taurus pistols, but the company does offer a lifetime warranty on their products.

The pistol being looked at in this article is the only Taurus automatic I own and is a PT-92 AF. It is an older pistol and the ambidextrous thumb safety does not decock the pistols as it does on current PT-92 pistols if forcefully pushed past the normal "down to fire, off-safe" position. While this can be viewed as a safety improvement, I do have some misgivings about it. Like the CZ-75, the Taurus PT-92 does allow for cocked and locked carry should that be desired and in the stress of a deadly force situation, one might apply enough force disengaging the safety to inadvertently decock the pistol such that the first shot has to be double-action or the pistol recocked before firing.

Taurus PT-92 AF 9mm Specifications:

Type: Conventional DA/SA recoil-operated, locked breech semiautomatic with an aluminum alloy frame, steel slide, barrel and parts. It has a modified ring hammer.

Length: 8 1/2"

Width: 1.6"

Weight: 34 oz.

Barrel Length: 5"

Rifling: 1:10"

Factory Std. Recoil Spring: 13-lbs.

Factory Std. mainspring: 18-lbs.

Magazine: Typical double stack. Pre-ban magazine capacity is 15 rounds of 9mm.

Sights: Fixed. Rear sight is a notched blade dovetailed into the slide. Front sight is a non-serrated semi-ramp integral to the slide.

Safeties: Ambidextrous frame-mounted with "up" for "safe" and "down" for "fire." Current versions of the pistol also can be decocked by depressing the thumb safety past the "fire" position. The pistol has an internal firing pin safety and a half-cock notch. It has an inertial firing pin as well. There is no magazine disconnect.

The PT-92 has the magazine release behind the trigger guard, which is preferred by American shooters for quick magazine changes rather than at the lower rear of the left grip as on the original Beretta 92. Where the original Beretta Model 92 pistols had the rounded trigger guard, the PT-92 has the "hooked." I prefer the rounded as I do not use the finger wrapped around the trigger guard type of shooting.

Currently, Taurus offers this model in 4 versions and there is an adjustable sight version, the PT-99. My gun has a black anodized frame with all steel parts being blued. The top of the slide is matte blue with the slide flats being polished. The pistol originally came with nice Brazilian hardwood stocks that while attractive, were slick as they were not checkered. With the least bit of perspiration, the gun got kind of hard to hang onto despite the vertical serrations in both the front and rear grip straps. Years ago, I replaced them with a set of the checkered rubber grips for the gun from then "Uncle Mike's." I believe that company is now called Butler Creek, but the pistol grips are still referred to as Uncle Mike's.

The rear grip strap can be seen with its vertical serrations. These do offer improvement if shooting with wet hands, but are not allowed to be optimum in this job due to the slick finish on the anodizing. I believe that a matte finish would have been more practical.

The front strap is also serrated nicely. Note that the magazine release is not ambidextrous and neither is the slide release lever. On the PT-92, only the thumb safety is ambidextrous and it is one of the few that I do not mind being so. It does not get in my way when shooting the pistol. Notice also that the magazine release assembly is attached to the pistol with a roll pin. I have heard of but one account of this coming loose. Though not a good thing, this would be easily corrected and statistically, is not a problem.

The PT-92, like the original Beretta 92 has smallish fixed sights that I personally believe could have been upgraded a bit over the years. Taurus' "solution" has been to use the same size sights, but with the now familiar 3-dot style sights. The gun is easier to use at speed than the early CZ-75 pistols, but does not offer the same speed sight picture as do the current CZ-75 pistols or the current Beretta Model 92F. I think this is a mistake and one that could have been rather easily corrected to make a good pistol a better pistol.

The front sight on my Taurus PT-92 is usable, but could certainly be better. I do not understand why Taurus has not improved this on later versions of the gun. The adjustable sighted PT-99 does offer a satisfactory sight picture and does have a taller front sight.

In this picture, you can see the rear sight, the abbreviated ring hammer and the right-side ambidextrous thumb safety lever. Note that due to the shape of the top of the slide, if POA did not match POI and lateral adjustment was needed, it would be very limited. The front sight, being integral to the slide doesn't help matters any. Fortunately, this pistol is dead bang "on," and this seems to be the case for the majority of these pistols that I've fired over the years.

The PT-92 has been called too large for its caliber and it is a large 9mm compared to many others. It is surprisingly light for its size and very comfortable to shoot.

So how does it shoot? Is it reliable? Can the smallish fixed sights be used at speed and in slow fire? To see, the following rounds were fired through this PT-92 at distances of 10, 15, and 25 yards.

Ammunition: Average Velocity (ft/sec) Extreme Spread Std. Deviation

Corbon 100-gr.

PowRball +P 1476 23 9

Hirtenberger 100-gr.

JSP "FL" 1363 51 20

Remington UMC 115-gr

FMJ 1214 78 24

Fiocchi 115-gr. FMJ 1188 97 29

PMP 115-gr. FMJ 1089 68 22

Federal 115-gr. JHP 1170 90 43

Fiocchi 123-gr. FMJ 1119 46 17

Fiocchi 123-gr. FMJ

"Combat" 1100 65 20

Speer 124-gr. Lawman

TMJ 1182 68 24

PMC 124-gr. Starfire JHP 1078 50 18

Triton 125-gr. Hi Vel JHP +P 1301 57 25

Winchester 127-gr. +P+ JHP

RA9TA 1292 32 11

Two handloads were also used. The powder charge in both was 6.0 grains if Unique and once-fired Magtech cases were used. Winchester Small Pistol primers were used to ignite the rounds. The only differences were that one used the Hornady 124-gr. XTP, the other, Speer's 124-gr. Gold Dot Hollow Point.

XTP handload 1261 102 37

GDHP handload 1174 68 22

From the data above, it is interesting to note that the change in bullet shape/make, resulted in a 87 ft/sec change in average velocity! The huge extreme spread shown with the XTP handload is there due to but one shot. The rest were much closer together. Even so, most opine that a standard deviation of less than 50 ft/sec is satisfactory. I've run into this a time or two before using Unique and Blue Dot as well as other flake powders simply because they don't meter as well as some of the finer ones.

Shooting: Everything but the 25 yard shooting was done using two hands in a Weaver stance. The 15 yard groups were fired strictly single-action and were done slowly. The 25 yard shooting was done single-action and from a rest using both hands. The groups fired at 10 yards were fired two-handed in a Weaver stance and each set of either controlled pairs or double-taps were fired coming from a low ready position.

15 Yards: Each group consists of 5-shots except for the Hornady 124-gr. CQ Tap load. I only had 3 rounds of it left from a previous test. It is so marked near the target.

Note that at this distance, the extreme spreads and standard deviations shown in the previous data seems to have little bearing on accuracy. I cannot prove it, but I think the single-most important factor in whether or not a pistol groups as well as it can is whether or not it "likes" a particular bullet's shape, gilding metal content, LOA, etc.

Though the point of aim was the light-colored center of the target for all loads here, the lighter and faster bullets did have a slightly lower point of impact. This is something to remember when choosing a fixed sight pistol. Most have their sights regulated for the standard bullet weights in a given caliber.

I remained amazed that the Taurus/Beretta open slide, dropping block, pistols which have minimal support at the front of the barrel group as well as they do. The vast majority of '92's I've fired from either maker have been surprisingly accurate for field purposes.

25 Yards: One composite group was fired at twenty-five yards and this was done from a rest. Four different loads were used to let you see the differences in POI vs. POA. The aiming point was the light-colored dot in the center of the gray target.

Only the significantly lighter and faster PowRball showed a distinctly lower point of impact for the same aiming point. The other groups overlap. The PowRball load is hitting roughly 2 1/2" low @ 25 yards.

10 Yards: Using the targets I normally do for slow, deliberate accuracy testing at 25 yards, I did some of the "quick & dirty" type shooting favored by many or those more oriented toward the defensive aspects of pistol shooting. I fired one group of controlled pairs starting with the pistol cocked and locked and then one group with the first shot being fired double-action. There seems to be some different definitions of controlled pairs vs. double-taps or "hammers." Here is how they're defined for this report:

Controlled Pair: One flash sight picture for each shot. In other words, sight alignment is as quick as possible and may not be perfect, but the sights are used for each shot.

Double-Tap: One flash sight picture for each set of two shots. This is to say that the sights were used only for the first shot with muscle memory attempting to bring the pistol "on" for the second shot. This is quicker to be sure, but I suggest that it only be used at ranges that are very close.

Other than the one low errant shot for the single-action controlled pairs, that group would have been tighter. Even so, for me the transition from double to single action does not seem as tough as for others. That said, I do prefer a consistent trigger pull from start to finish and greatly prefer single-action automatics while other folks prefer the DAO semiautos

Though quicker, the double-tap is just not as accurate for me. Though not by much, I do consider each of the four hits outside the roughly 5" diameter target to be a miss.

I also tested two rounds in the "scientific water jug testing" which is performed simply by shooting the water jugs, lined up in a row, from about 20.' That distance is chosen so that the "calibrated" water doesn't splash on me so much.

The cartridge and recovered, expanded bullet on the left is Triton's 125-grain Hi Vel +P JHP. Impacting at an average velocity of 1301 ft/sec, the bullet did separate from the jacket and did fragment. I was not able to recover all of the fragmented pieces. Recovered bullet and jacket weighed 108.2 grains and the bullet only measured 0.50 x 0.58." The PMC Starfire 124-grain JHP expanded to 0.57 x 0.61" and the recovered bullet weighed 122.3 grains. For what it's worth, the Triton's impact was more "dramatic" than was the Starfire's. I have tested and shown the consistent results of the new Corbon PowRball in other tests so it was not done again.

Observations: As expected, there were no failures to feed, fire, or eject. This pistol has failed to feed one time since I've owned it and that was with a short, hot 88-grain JHP handload. It fired the other 99 of them with zero problems. It's never failed to function perfectly with any JHP or FMJ round weighing 100-grains or more. I have not tried any of the 147-gr. bullets in it so I cannot say how it handles them.

One thing that begs discussion is a comparison to the Beretta pistol from which it sprang.

Taurus PT-92 vs. Beretta 92FS: Whenever the PT-92 is discussed, the inevitable comparison to the current US military pistol comes up. Which is best? Is the Beretta worth the extra money? What are the differences in the two? These are the normal questions. I'll give you my views, but understand that I am not an aficionado of this design handgun compared to the CZ, Browning, or 1911. These are just my observations.

In terms of fit and finish, the Beretta wins. The Brunitron finish is durable and in my opinion better looking that the blued Taurus. I greatly prefer the frame-mounted thumb safeties on the Taurus to the Beretta's slide-mounted decocking safety. The Beretta has a chrome lined barrel interior which the Taurus does not.

The fixed sights on the Beretta are much easier to pick up at speed than those on the fixed sight Taurus PT-92. The trigger on the Taurus is more curved and to me, more comfortable than that on the Beretta. I prefer the Taurus pistols straight front grip strap rather than the slightly flared one toward the bottom of the Beretta. In actual shooting, I've noted no real difference in performance overall between the two. This could certainly not hold true for each and every example of each gun, but in general such has been the case.

If important to you, the Taurus PT-92 can be carried with the hammer down and the frame-mounted thumb safety in the "on" position such that even a double-action first shot could require disengaging the thumb safety first. Folks concerned about possibly losing control of their pistol in a physical confrontation might consider this a plus. I believe that some models of the Beretta allow the slide-mounted thumb safety to remain down unless physically pushed up to disengaged while others act only as decockers and are spring loaded to return to the "fire" position when released. Is the Beretta the better of the two? Probably, but it may be that the Taurus is "close enough" in certain things to make it a best buy for many. I prefer it to the Beretta Model 92 FS.

It is my understanding that the magazines between the two pistols can be interchanged, but some work has to be done on the magazine catch notches on the magazines. A gunsmith told me that the Beretta magazine release is not interchangeable with the Taurus, but I've never personally compared these parts.

Both the Taurus and the Beretta dispense with the common locking lugs and use a block that drops as the slide retracts to unlock the action. These can crack and should be checked/replaced about every 5000 rounds. At least that is what an ex-army friend of mine has told me and is something I've seen in print as well. This is easily done if necessary and not something to worry about.

The cut-away slide top common to both the Beretta and the Taurus PT-92/99 is said to allow for debris from firing to leave the pistol. It would appear that this also allows the fine sand of the Iraqi desert to enter the pistol and cause problems as well. Unless in such conditions, I don't think reliability is a problem with this type pistol.

I was told yesterday that my local dealer sells the PT-92 in a blue finish for $379.00, not counting tax. This brings to mind another quality pistol in that price range, the CZ-75B. A comparison between the two might be of use to folks interested in a 9mm pistol in this price range.

Taurus PT-92 vs. CZ-75B: The Taurus is wider and larger than the CZ, but is lighter. Both are extremely reliable with practically any JHP or ball round that will be used. The Taurus has an aluminum alloy frame while the CZ is all steel in the full-sized versions. Out of the box, the CZ-75B has better fixed sights in my opinion and is a more comfortable pistol. It uses the John M. Browning locking lug/tilting barrel design rather than that of the dropping block. It is more durable I suspect. Both have frame mounted thumb safeties but you have to go to the CZ-85 to get ambidextrous thumb safeties as come standard on the Taurus. Both have internal firing pin safeties and neither have magazine "safeties." With Pre-Ban magazines both use a 15 round double stack. Magazines will drop freely from the Taurus out of the box while the flat spring magazine brake must be adjusted or replaced on the CZ to get the same thing. There are more aftermarket parts for the CZ than the PT-92. Both pistols offer very good case support. I find the CZ less complex internally than the PT-92 but both have many more parts than do the single-action automatics I'm more accustomed to.

While I like the PT-92/99, I personally think the CZ is the better of the two simply because there are no concerns for replacing the block every 5K rounds, it has better sights, is simply more visually appealing to me, is flatter, and feels more comfortable to me. Others may disagree and even with the above, I truly like and trust my PT-92. This one will stay with me.

Here's another reason why.

It's well known amongst the pistol shooting community that failing to firmly hold a reliable automatic can sometimes result in malfunctions. Holding the pistol without sufficient resistance for the rearward movement of the slide to overcome the recoil spring's tension is sometimes called "limp wristing."

The PT-92 does not appear prone to this at all! I've tried this in the past and today's test continued to show 100% reliability with the PT-92. I used "hot" Triton loads as well as the lightly-loaded PMC Starfires. Holding the gun as loosely as I could without dropping it in recoil, I fired 10 rounds of both types of ammo. The pistol worked fine each and every shot. This will routinely make a perfect running 1911 either fail to fully extract a round or fail to chamber. You have to "work" at it, but it can be done. This might be considered important for a person having diminished strength or physical disability and wanting to use the semiautomatic for defense. Even the weakest grip seems not to affect the feeding or extraction of the PT-92.

Though not necessarily the "best" choice, the PT-92 loaded with the extremely low-recoiling PMC 124-gr. Starfire JHP ammunition might make a viable choice for someone with physical disability or diminished strength. Even with an extremely light hold, the pistol shown was 100% reliable.

If you simply prefer the "M9" look or the open top slide, I think the Taurus PT-92/99 series of 9mm handguns have much to recommend them. They're probably not the vehicle in which to see just how fast the 9mm bullet can be shot and without question are not going to handle nearly so many rounds as a 1911 between "tune ups," but they are fun pistols to shoot and in the vast majority of examples, reliable as can

be.

The Taurus PT-92 is easy to field strip for cleaning. I've shot this one up to about 700 rounds in the past before cleaning. It caused no malfunctions, but cannot be recommended. Keep your pistol, whatever the make, clean between range sessions.

Shooting primarily standard velocity ammunition in mine, I'm not adverse to loading it with the warmer stuff for testing and self-protection. With an extra block in the parts bin just in case, one can shoot these pistols quite a lot and even the already-light 9mm felt recoil is minimal in these pistols.

Though they are not perfect, I do think they're quite decent for many within the shooting community and best buys simply because they almost always work fine right out of the box.

Best.

*I received this information and wanted to more accurately relate Imbel's history:

Correction about Imbel Dear Stephen,

First of all, congrats on the wealth of information on your site. I've spent quite a long time reading through your gun reviews. You certainly are worthy of praise when it comes to knowing your guns.

One thing, however, caught my attention. In the article entitled "A Critical Look at the Taurus PT-92", you start by stating that Imbel stopped producing the 1911 clones in 1973. That info is not quite accurate.

Imbel, which is controlled by the Brazilian army, but only partially owned by it, actually never stopped producing the 1911. In fact, they make one of the most reliable 1911's I know.

The unofficial story is as follows:

In 1973, all the Brazilian armed forces used the 1911 in .45, either made by Imbel or from a special contract with Colt. They then decided to move to the 9x19. Taurus presented a solution that was the PT-92, which had great acceptance between the armed forces. Imbel, in turn, presented a 1911-clone chambered for 9x19. The Imbel M973 was born.

The armed forces were divided. What followed is that both guns were adopted, one of the dumbest moves ever made. Although the original version of the M973 held 7+1 rounds, the current version uses a double-stack magazine (compatible with the Para-Ordnance P18-9 magazine) that holds 19+1 rounds.

Since 1988 95% of the guns (rifles, machine guns and pistols) bought by the Brazilian Armed Forces are from Imbel.

The Imbel 1911, however, continued being produced for the civil and law-enforcement markets, and their line of 1911's have broadened. Today Imbel makes over 20 models of 1911, in .380 ACP, 9mm, .38 Super, .40 and .45. Most of Imbel's production is made for Springfield Armory. In Brazil the demand for Imbel pistols is very high, since they have proved themselves over and over in IPSC competitions. I have 3 of them.

Here are 2 links with more info about Imbel (both have English versions):
www.imbel.gov.br
www.southamerica.com.br

Thursday, August 10, 2006

More Articles By Stephen Camp

A Critical Look at the CZ-75

The CZ-75 and its "off-spring" have caught on with shooters not only in the US, but also wherever handgunners have any choice in their personal sidearm. This all steel recoil-operated, locked breech, semiautomatic handgun was originally brought out in 9x19mm and that's the caliber we'll be looking at in this article. Pre-Ban magazines are conventional double-stack and holds 15 rounds of ammunition. The pistol has fixed sights in normal trim and is conventionally rifled with a 1:10 twist in its 4.72" barrel.

This conventional double-action/single-action pistol also has a frame mounted thumb safety of ample size that allows for "Condition One" (cocked and locked) carry which is very popular among many serious carriers. The pistol is 8" long and came with black plastic grips, a generous tang, and a hammer with an equally generous spur. The thumb safety, magazine release button, and slide stop lever are not ambidextrous on the CZ-75 as a rule, but at least one exception to this exists in a transitional model when the gun was evolving from the earlier version to the CZ-75B. This work focuses on a Pre-B CZ-75, but whenever possible, I will make comparisons to the CZ-75B, the model sold today. Not discussed will be the CZ-85, 97, nor other versions, but they do have much in common with the CZ-75.

This 2.2-lb. pistol was apparently brought out for sale beyond the Iron Curtain as 9x19mm was not used by communist regimes in Europe. Because of unpleasantness between communist countries and the United States, we could not get the pistol in this country except on a sporadic basis and importation was an "on again-off again" type affair. Some paid pretty hefty prices for an example of the gun that Jeff Cooper had dubbed the "world's best service nine." Its appeal was rivaled by its scarcity! (Mercifully, this has reversed in recent years and the CZ-75B and CZ handguns in general represent "best buys" in my opinion.)

The pistol used for this report is a Pre-B pistol, but is not one of the earliest with the shorter slide rails and crude ring hammers. It does have the customary half-cock notch although some of the earliest pistols did not. Slide rails measure approximately 5.5."

In the Pre-B pistols, the fixed sights tended toward the past. In other words, they were smallish and hard to see, particularly if you're in a hurry. The rear sight on any CZ-75 is relatively high for the short front sight. (Current CZ-75B pistols have fixed sights that are easier to see at speed than the Pre-B.)

The recoil spring guide in the Pre-B is steel and not a "full length" type affair. It's similar to the standard GI recoil spring guide found in the 1911 and unlike the Browning Hi Power, it does not apply downward tensioning of the slide stop lever. While the slide stop lever shaft passes through the rear of the Browning Hi Power spring guide, the CZ's does not. It's more like that found on the 1911.

These two CZ-75 pistols are Pre-B versions. The one on the left has had Novak fixed sights added and the barrel and some internal parts hard chromed. The one on the right is practically stock, although it has been refinished. Note the smallish front sight on that CZ compared to the other. CZ-75B pistols have solved the "small sight" problem on their current pistols. Both of these guns have spur hammers, which have been bobbed to prevent hammer bite. In the rear of the magazine well is a bowed flatspring. This is often called a "magazine brake" and does prevent the magazine dropping free when released. It's easily removed, the bow removed, and magazines will then fall free. Some folks just remove the brake, but this is a mistake as some have found out when quickly loading their CZ's. A raised portion of the frame normally behind the brake can damage the rear top of the magazine.

For this report, I'll provide shooting results from both of these pistols.

The CZ-75 uses a one-piece feed ramp and the pistol offers very good chamber support.

CZ-75 barrels do not come hard chromed. Armalloy of Ft. Worth, Texas, did this one.

Note the wide ramp and the very good chamber support. "Kabooms" with the CZ are very unlikely. Note the protrusion at the top of the barrel ala Browning Hi Power.

The factory standard for the 9mm CZ-75 recoil spring is 14-lbs. with a 20-lb. mainspring compared to a 17-lb. recoil spring for the 9mm Browning Hi Power and 32-lb. mainspring. The 5" Colt 1911 in 9mm uses a 14-lb. recoil spring and a 23-lb. factory standard set for the mainspring. Thus, the factory CZ-75 requires the cartridge to provide enough momentum to overcome at least 34 pounds compared to 49 and 37 for the Hi Power and 1911, respectively. I find this interesting, as the Hi Power slide would come closer to the weight of the CZ than would the more massive 1911. Be that as it may, the CZ has proven to be an extremely durable 9mm service pistol.

At this point, it should be mentioned that there have been several complaints concerning the breaking of the slide stop in some CZ-75B 9mm pistols. Mike Eagleshield, gunsmith at CZ-USA, has stated that the 14-lb. recoil springs frequently were not and sometimes closer to 10 or 12! He recommended at least a 14-lb. Wolff conventional recoil spring and perhaps up to about 16 pounds. I use a Wolff conventional 18-lb. recoil spring in my CZ-75 pistols as well as a shock buffer from Buffer Technologies. (Wolff can be found at www.gunsprings.com and Buffer Technologies at www.buffertech.com if interested.) Some report ejection problems with the 18-lb. spring so it might be better to go with something in the 16-lb. range if you primarily shoot standard pressure ammunition. My pistols work fine with the 18-lb. spring, but have been used quite a lot might be slicked up enough that I don't get the ejection problems mentioned by others. Most standard pressure loads eject the hulls about 4' to the right with the hotter stuff going about twice that distance.

The CZ-75 pistols do not have removable barrel bushings and the guns are internally more complex than either the 1911 or the Hi Power, but the 44- part design seems to be a reliable one as I've owned and shot these pistols since the early '80's with zero small parts breakage or reliability issues…with one exception. One the CZ having the original fixed sights, a certain "hot" handload would routinely fail to feed. To cut to the chase, replacing the factory magazine spring with a Wolff +10% spring solved the problem. With that change, the problem went away and has not reappeared. If you're experiencing any such problems, that might be the cure for you as well.

Internally the CZ-75 is more complex than the single-action automatic preferred by many, including myself. You can also see tool marks here and there. Be that as it may, the pistols have been around about a quarter of a century and seem to be having no problems. They would be more difficult to detail strip in the field than a few, but if that's not a major concern, I believe that arguments against the pistol are more theoretical than practical.

The CZ-75 has internal slide rails, just the reverse of the majority of semiautomatics on the market today. In other words, the slide is contained within the frame rather than riding outside it. Frame to slide to is not nearly so tight as on the Hi Power, 1911, or practically any quality automatic you can name, but the CZ-75B pistols do seem tighter in the examples I've seen than the Pre-B pistols.

The frame to slide fit as shown at the front of the frame and dust cover is not very tight by most standards, but the slide to barrel fit is extremely tight. How much the former contributes to inherent mechanical accuracy is unknown to me, but unless your shooting is done from a Ransom rest, the CZ-75 will prove to be a very accurate shooter. Groups I've seen fired from a mechanical rest where there's no adjustment between shots via the sights have been larger than with several other makes of 9mm pistol.

Here's the slide to frame fit from the rear. The sharp-eyed will notice that the long curved hammer spur has been trimmed a bit to prevent hammer bite. This is not a concern on the CZ-75B pistols as they come with a ring hammer.

Some have opined that the CZ-75 is a poorly made handgun because the internal finish is rough. I respectfully disagree. They are rough internally, but this has never caused me any problems and the CZ-75 pistols I've shot have consistently had long, but smooth double-action trigger pulls and very usable single-action trigger pulls. Because of their design, even in single-action, pressing the trigger will cam the hammer back a very small distance before releasing it. Mercifully, this pistol does not come with a magazine "safety" and the single-action trigger pull is almost always considerably lighter than the Hi Power's out of the box. The CZ trigger pull is somewhat "mushy," but the gun will "shoot," but don't expect to have a crisp single-action trigger pull like that of a 1911 or a tuned Hi Power.

I have consistently found these pistols to be accurate. They will not match the SIG P-210 nor the FN Competition or a target-grade custom 1911, but like the Hi Power, they will be capable of accuracy that is beyond most shooters, particularly under field conditions or if under the stress of a gun fight.

This 15 yard slow fire target was fired with the CZ-75 with Novak fixed sights.

So was this one. It was extremely hot when these groups were fired and I wasn't for sure if the first group fired with the Remington UMC was me or the ammo. It was me as the second group at the lower right shows.

Using Fiocchi's 123-grain FMJTC round, the CZ did plenty good enough for me at 25 yards. The group was fired seated and using a rest.

In slow fire, the CZ-75 with the small factory sights did not prove unsatisfactory. This 15 yard group consists of a full magazine of 115-grain Fiocchi FMJ. I have never noted any instances of "first round flyer" with any CZ-75 I've ever fired in either 9mm or .40 S&W.

This group was done in rapid-fire using the smallish sights. This is tougher than with more easily seen sights such as the Novaks on a different CZ or those from the factory on the current CZ-75B's.

I did pull one using the CZ with the better sights. That was me and not the pistol, of course. This group was 8-sets of controlled pairs from 10 yards. Like most pistols having double stack magazines and a wide front grip strap, the gun can become slippery with sweaty hands. This is the bane of any such pistol not having stippling, checkering, or something to provide secure purchase with wet hands. Unfortunately, my CZ-75 pistols do have smooth front grip straps.

I have found the CZ-75 to be extremely reliable with the vast majority of JHP ammunition I've tried in them. Here are the average velocities, extreme spreads, and standard deviations for several factory loads. Measurements were taken with the pistol's muzzle being approximately 10' from the chronograph screens and figures are based on 10-shot strings.

Ammunition: ` Average Velocity (ft/sec)

Aguila 65-grain IQ 1492

Extreme Spread: 24

Std. Deviation: 12

Corbon 100-grain PowRball +P 1431

Extreme Spread: 50

Std. Deviation: 24

PMP 115-grain FMJ 1076

Extreme Spread: 42

Std. Deviation: 14

Remington 115-grain UMC FMJ 1186

Extreme Spread: 38

Std. Deviation: 11

Fiocchi 115-grain FMJ 1132

Extreme Spread: 73

Std. Deviation: 24

Federal 115-grain JHP 1151

Extreme Spread: 43

Std. Deviation: 15

Fiocchi 123-grain FMJTC "Combat" 1061

Extreme Spread: 61

Std. Deviation: 21

Federal 124-grain Nyclad HP 1162

Extreme Spread: 27

Std. Deviation: 12

Hornady 124-grain CQ (XTP) JHP 1153

Extreme Spread: 52

Std. Deviation: 19

Triton 125-grain Hi Vel JHP +P 1266

Extreme Spread: 69

Std. Deviation: 25

Corbon 125-grain JHP +P 1194

Extreme Spread: 17

Std. Deviation: 8

Winchester RA9TA 127-grain +P+ 1285

Extreme Spread: 70

Std. Deviation: 29

I was somewhat surprised with the sub-1200 ft/sec with the Corbon 125-grain JHP as it normally exceeds 1200 ft/sec from both my CZ and Browning pistols. Note the extreme uniformity in the load. I was also taken back by the better consistency shown in the PMP ammunition. This recent stuff has normally grouped poorly in other 9mm pistols. The figures are from ammo having the same lot number. I reckon I'll just shoot it in my CZ 9mm pistols.

For those interested, there is information on this site concerning other JHP ammo when fired into water. There are better sites for detailed analysis of such things, but I went ahead and fired the Hornady CQ 124-grain into water from the CZ as well as Corbon's PowRball.

Here's what happened:

Fired into water from the CZ-75 shown, the Corbon PowRball impacted at an average velocity of 1431 ft/sec. The bullet weighed 77.4 grains and the expanded slug measured 0.65x0.66." The jacket fragmented and not one piece could be found. The weight of the PowRball includes the small lead fragment shown to the left of the bullet. The standard pressure and heavier Hornady impacted at approx. 1153 ft/sec. The recovered bullet including the small fragment weighed 120.1 grains and measured 0.52x0.54."

In short, I've had extremely positive results with the CZ-75 pistols I have owned and shot over the long-term and have no problems at all in recommending them to others with but one caveat: Test any handgun before relying on it for any serious purpose.

Main differences between the CZ-75 and 75B include an internal firing pin safety on the latter, as well as some cosmetic changes like the B's hooked trigger guard as well as thumb safety lever and slide stop. There is also a slightly different contour on the trigger face and has been mentioned the B has sights that are easier to pick up at speed.

As there have been some breakage complaints of the roll pin that retains the B's firing pin rather than the traditional retaining plate, I would use a snap cap if dry firing the CZ-75B or any other CZ handgun with a "B" designation.

The shape of this Pre-B thumb safety lever has been changed in the B version, as has the slide release lever. The B's also have ring hammers. The slide serrations on the Pre-B are vertical while they're angled slightly forward on the new guns.

The CZ-75 pistols be they "B" or not are world class service pistols in my experience and opinion. That they can be purchased easier and less expensively these days than in the past is a good thing as far as I 'm concerned. If you like doing lots of shooting, there are certainly many fine 9mm semiautomatics from which to choose. If I could not use a Browning Hi Power, I would use a CZ-75.

The CZ-75 remains a real favorite in my collection of 9mm handguns. This one's taken a javelina or two and I would not be afraid to use it for serious matters, either.